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KoruarmaruKaeoga

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PostSubject: Discussing the Meta   Discussing the Meta I_icon_minitimeTue Jan 24, 2012 2:33 am

Am I the only one upset at the way the meta is this format? I really hate how anti control this format is. I also dont like how everything topping is Dino-rabbit, plants, or something with tourguide :[
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PostSubject: Re: Discussing the Meta   Discussing the Meta I_icon_minitimeTue Jan 24, 2012 2:53 am

Well in this meta, the focus moved from control and OTK based builds to a more agro approach. Before, decks like glads were pro. Agro just means that you need to rely upon monster effects more than ever before.

The reason the top decks are still good is because of the options that the basic deck gives. For example; Synchrocentric (aka Plant Synchro). Literally every card in the deck has it's use and each card outside of Ciaus, and BLSEotB are usable right from start. The deck is shifting from slow methodical playing to high speed boss summons to control the game from the start. The shift happened when Agents came out, and the boss attack level shifted from a fast 2500 attack monster (Stardust Dragon for instance) to a easy 2700 attacker (Hyperion, Grapha, etc) those monsters are not NOMI, and not even Semi-NOMI so the deck styles need to be reflected.
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PostSubject: Re: Discussing the Meta   Discussing the Meta I_icon_minitimeTue Jan 24, 2012 3:11 am

The agro approach isn't a good one in my opinion, you can still have agro but with control, in this format they completely threw control out the window. I'm not happy about that, cause control is more fun and puts people on the edge and makes them think more.

I understand why theses decks are so good, but for the poor people who have budgets or limited resources get to miss out on topping in places, or lose majoroty of the time, I remember when almost every cards was $50 or less, and there were a few rare ones here and there that were 60-80 but now we have cards breaking the $100 zone which is ridiculous.
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PostSubject: Re: Discussing the Meta   Discussing the Meta I_icon_minitimeTue Jan 24, 2012 3:57 am

Yeah, when a deck tops, then the main cards prices get jacked up. To be honest, Konami has been power tripping for a while. Granted Tour Guide is unique to as it's the only card to fetch a card from the deck. There are a few control archetypes, like Gladiator Beasts who are barely hanging in there. Actually we could see a resurrection of the warrior type, with some recent cards that are being released in the OCG.

At the same time, since the game relys upon speed now, Konami has released the ninja's which are fairly fast; and can screw up your opponent. Think a Super Poly, that can be added to the hand faster than a normal super poly.
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PostSubject: Re: Discussing the Meta   Discussing the Meta I_icon_minitimeTue Jan 24, 2012 9:48 pm

Hmm my opinion on the meta is that there are certain decks i dislike but SOMETIMES i can consider it to be a challege for me if the meta deck i am facing is not completly broken in a way that there is a chance to defeat it
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PostSubject: Re: Discussing the Meta   Discussing the Meta I_icon_minitimeWed Jan 25, 2012 3:11 am

You mean like inzektors Jaden? God what is the best strategy to go against them anyways? My best bet for me is fiendish chain and effect veilers >.<
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PostSubject: Re: Discussing the Meta   Discussing the Meta I_icon_minitimeWed Jan 25, 2012 5:19 am

Macro Cosmos Cause they can't use hornets Eff with it on Field Hornet to get his eff has to be Sent to Grave with macro hornet can't go Anywhere Not D Fissure cause While hornet is Equiped he's Considered a S/T card and Fissure Can't touch him activate macro MST his ass and call it a nice day


i wouldn't reccomend this with black Wings but you can Side in Shadow imprisioning Mirror and ti would kill the Whole inzektor Engine But it will kill blackwings to
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PostSubject: Re: Discussing the Meta   Discussing the Meta I_icon_minitimeWed Jan 25, 2012 3:34 pm

Yea see I run Dragunities and Blackwings so that kinda kill both of the engines >.>
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PostSubject: Re: Discussing the Meta   Discussing the Meta I_icon_minitimeWed Jan 25, 2012 5:02 pm

Inzecktors could be an example but maybe the worst of all of them is that wind up combo that kills your field and hand
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PostSubject: Re: Discussing the Meta   Discussing the Meta I_icon_minitimeWed Jan 25, 2012 5:51 pm

once again a well placed macro will kill them to Cause hunter when he's pitched as a material to get rat will be Removed frrom play so that can't bring him back with Rat
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PostSubject: Re: Discussing the Meta   Discussing the Meta I_icon_minitimeWed Jan 25, 2012 6:07 pm

Banish is probably one of the best variant to countering just about everything, but is really a glass deck.
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PostSubject: Re: Discussing the Meta   Discussing the Meta I_icon_minitimeThu Jan 26, 2012 2:34 am

Yea I used ro tun a solid D.D. deck but then with this current meat its just not that great.
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PostSubject: Re: Discussing the Meta   Discussing the Meta I_icon_minitimeThu Jan 26, 2012 2:41 am

Meta for the loss xD
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PostSubject: Re: Discussing the Meta   Discussing the Meta I_icon_minitimeThu Jan 26, 2012 3:56 am

Depends on how you play the deck to begin with; there is a leniency when it comes to playing the deck to begin with. I expect that my d-fissue, and macro's is going to be destroyed so I plan ahead to counter the foretold problems; and with that; I need to play a quick agro control with Thunder King with Caius. At the same time, the deck dose use Scout Plane, and Survivor, for minor beaters, and if need be, I can Dark Hole, and not lose my field presence, because if I have either d-fissure, or macro's on the field they will come back at the end phase (their effects are mandatory) so I always need to summon them. I rather leave the deck list a secret since it is my test deck; but it does have it's flaws like I am hopefully dependent upon the cards mentioned above.


Also I would like to bring up the following: what are your opinions on this meta? If any of you are into reading the articles at TCG Player, do you think of this meta? Some think it's fast, but there's a mention of it being slow because of Effect Veiler, and Maxx "C". Also before you say that Maxx "C" isn't a threat, when did giving your opponent 2+ cards not a disadvantage?

What is being brought up is that the meta is slower, because Veiler effectively slows down the duel, by stopping a crucial play. At the same time Maxx "C" makes you stop and think if you really should go with the play to let your opponent draw 2+ cards.

What are your thoughts on the meta? Is it fast or slow?
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